Tuesday, August 17, 2010

Jumping the Wall

Once again showing who runs this town, Mainor Eglet has reeled in a couple of major players to fill that hole left by Cottle: Attorney Artemus Ham (of the Hall), and currently-seated District Court Judge David Wall.

Judge Wall's decision to leave the bench, effective August 27th (!), is certainly the shocker here. Wall is, in our humble opinion, the best judge currently sitting on the EJDC bench, and his absence will certainly be felt. We are clearly not alone in our respect for him - Wall was one of two judges (David Barker being the other) who scored a 91% retention rating in the latest Judging the Judges poll.

Which brings up an interesting issue (to us, anyway): Does an elected judge have a duty to the public that elected him to stay on the bench for his entire term? Wall's 6-year term does not expire until 2014. Assuming the world doesn't end in 2012, he's skipping out on the voting public (who - let's be honest - likely picked his name on the ballot because it's also a noun) a bit early.

What do you think, commenters? Should we hogtie Wall to the bench and force him to continue to make rational, informed decisions for the next 3.5 years? We know there's (apparently) no legal basis for making him finish out his term, but as an elected judge, should there be?

(News 3; Thanks, Tipsters!)

100 comments:

Anonymous said...

Your answer is no. Next question: who should replace Wall, Troy Fox or any attorney from Hutchinson and Steffen?

Anonymous said...

Being "the best judge currently sitting on the EJDC bench" is kind of like being the hottest chick in Fernley. Good riddance. Let him go make money the Eglet way.

Anonymous said...

If you could not make Newt Gingrich, Dennis Hastert, Trent Lott, Richard Baker and Joe Scarborough stay for their elected terms.....then...well. It is jsut a bit weird. people around the office here keep saying it is alla bout money...perhaps it is all about being tired of the grind. Maybe he just didn't like the job.

Anonymous said...

Clearly 8:21 never practiced with, against or in front of David Wall.

Anonymous said...

Notice 8:21(2) only lists repubs...that is because libs would never DREAM of quitting the gravy train.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, I'll bet Sarah Palin regrets having left the Alaska gravy train for all the money she's making in the private sector as a reality television star.

Anonymous said...

@8:21 i think that we should make David Wall go work @ hutchinson & steffen as a punishment for abandoning his judicial seat ...that'll set 'em straight ----- cuz u kno the mormons frown on the gheys

Anonymous said...

"A judge is a law student who marks his own examination papers." H. L. Mencken

Anonymous said...

Next, Eglet's going to hire Stefany Miley.

Anonymous said...

@ 8:38 Wait what? Is Wall of the tribe of the fallen hand?

Anonymous said...

We should make the judges sign a non-compete. IF you leave the bench early, you can't practice law in front of the court you were elected to until your elected term has expired.

Anonymous said...

You can be sure lame duck Governor Gibbons will replace Wall with yet another Republican Mormon.

Anonymous said...

It's time for a change. Ian Christopherson for District Court!

Anonymous said...

8:59 AM - I suddenly feel as if I am not alone in the universe...

Anonymous said...

Maybe Wall thinks it will be more fun to prosecute Mainor's endoscopy cases than preside over them.

Anonymous said...

@ 9:23 yeah cuz that is what he did when he appointed JEWISH DEMOCRAT Elissa Cadish!

Anonymous said...

9:23 - almost certainly has teh ghey

Anonymous said...

Makes wonder if this will really work. Remember Gene Porter left the bench and then it did not work out for him with his friend's firm.
Being wooed by Eglet is one thing working for him long term is another. I give it a year and then see what happens.

Anonymous said...

Gibbons should appoint Troy Fox.

Anonymous said...

9:41, you just made me spit coffee all over my computer screen.

Anonymous said...

The Eglets now have lots of money, thanks mostly to the rough and tumble of the Awand/Kabins years. A new phase has been entered. Now what they crave is power, prestige, and legitimacy. By hiring respected judges and Nevada heirs, the Eglets gain an inside track to the social and political legitimacy they seek.

Most great dynasties begin with a crime.

Anonymous said...

I hope nobody crashes an Oldsmobile into Lake Mead.

Anonymous said...

Usually, when someone secures a new job, congratulations are in order.

In this situation, I'm not so sure.

I'm with 10:31, lets give it a year.

Anonymous said...

A former judicial officer will be appearing in the court system where he served before his colleagues. It is probably not an ethical dilemna because a person can not be prohibited from making a living. It would be no different if he lost in the election or stepped down for other reasons and then hung out a shinge. Nonetheless, it still does not pass the smell test.

Anonymous said...

"Nonetheless, it still does not pass the smell test."

That can be said of the whole legal profession. We are a good ol boys club and unless you do what we say you cannot make a living at the law.

Anonymous said...

11:44 AM

Nicely said, nicely done. Imagine having a signicant policy limits case against David Wall before one of his colleagues, if not friends. This is going to be so tough. When a judge leaves the bench and then goes to private practice, in many jurisdictions it is not going to have the impact that it does here because the legal community and legal system is so small. Look at the comments regarding the small number of characters on this blog.

Anonymous said...

Let me know when Walsh's baliff is hired by the Eglets.

Anonymous said...

I'm not sure it makes a difference. Sure, Judge Wall is friends with these judges, but half of them were elected based on parties thrown by Eglet anyway. Judges already know who their friends are.

Anonymous said...

Judge Wall left because he's a litigator. Ham merged to enhance his portfolio, not the other way around. The name will remain Mainor Eglet. The Eglet envy on this site is ridiculous. It's almost like all those "Anonymous" user names are the same person.

Anonymous said...

Eglet envy?

Anonymous said...

some of you people act like you get beat up by mormonns on a daily basis : )

Anonymous said...

Judge Wall is totally straight, let me assure you. I worked for him.

Anonymous said...

What's next? Bixler & Fox, LLC?

Anonymous said...

Hey 8.21(2) a.m., does the hottest chick in Fernley have a full set of teeth or at least a more recent photo than the one posted of Judge Wall here?

Anonymous said...

I love mormons. The ones who wear the ties with the short-sleeved dress shirts have been doing my yard work for over a decade for free. I don't get their infatuation with that dance the "phony moronie," though.

Anonymous said...

So, 7:40, are you a chick who fucked him or a gay guy who got rejected. If the latter, it doesn't mean he was straight . . . maybe you were just fugly.

Anonymous said...

I'm not so sure Eglet hiring former Asst. D.A. Wall was a good idea. I'm thinking illegal/unethical things Wall sees will be reported to the proper authority. This will end badly for all involved.

Anonymous said...

Rectal Itch....

Rod R. Blagojevich......

Analingus.....

Salad tossed.....

Adamm Stokes...

Who is Half Priced Douchebags?

Anonymous said...

Stefanie Miley to Huctherson & Steffans?

or is she going to Marquiz de sade and Auerbacker?


STOKES RULES! BA BA BOOEY!!!

Anonymous said...

9:02p.m. -- ghey fo sho

Anonymous said...

On a side note, every comment on RJ's articles blame Harry Reid for everything, so I am going to use that theory here. It is Harry Reids fault Judge Wall is leaving.

Anonymous said...

@9:11

Great point. Mainor Eglet is as unethical and slimey as it gets. Hopefully Judge Wall (when do we start calling him David?) can help raise the bar there.

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Anonymous said...

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Also, I think your definition of "generous" is going to be different than the general population's.

Anonymous said...

Maybe half-price generous???

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

Why do you bring two mormons with you fishing? Because if you only bring one, he'll drink all of your beer.

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Anonymous said...

Hey Mormon haters, you are going to have to do better than posting some lame religious hate speech on this little site. We've withstood Carthidge, Nauvoo, Missouri, the federal government, and, oh yeah, traversing the plains in handcarts!

"Sticks and stones, love." Captain Jack Sparrow.

Anonymous said...

1:37 - Why are you wasting time with us gentiles? Don't you have your very own planet to populate? Wouldn't your time be better spent ripping off some more Masonic rituals, hiding your racist and polygamist past, or buying up embarrassing history and sticking it in a mountain vault? Or maybe you could spread some more hatred against gays and lesbians? Or how about you shut your sanctimonious trap.

Anonymous said...

Captain Jack Sparrow was a drinker you retard. Ergo not a mormon. Plus, what was Jesus' first miracle? Turning water into wine (not unfermented grape juice you flipping revisionists). If Jesus is down for drinking so am I. Are you better than Jesus?

Anonymous said...

1:45 and 1:46. Is that all you've got? Close, but no cigar... Oops. I guess I can't use that saying either since it involves tobacco.

Anonymous said...

"traversing the plains in handcarts!"

uh......all teh sttlers....jews, catholics, baptists, etc......crossed theplains the same way. You puzzlewit!

Anonymous said...

@2:09 Good, then they can withstand the religious hatred too. Was your comment intentionally pointless?

Anonymous said...

IT wasn't pointless, it was to take the wind outta the fake argument that the mormons had it harder than anyone else. They are a bunch of people who believe the lies of a carnival man. They pretend they are holy but they sound like anyone else when you get them away from one of their own who might turn them in to the jesus jammie police. Hypocrits.

Anonymous said...

@2:09,

Mostly by wagons. Some by boat (going around S. America, or trying to cross overland at Panama).

Only the most broke-ass Mormons crossed using handcarts (about 10% of the ones who moved west).

Anonymous said...

Is Bob Eglet a Mormon?

Anonymous said...

"Hypocrites" has an e. But who's really shocked that you fall short in the intelligence department.

Anonymous said...

@2:32,

Yes, yes, and all Jews are either lawyers or diamond merchants, all Irish drink heavily, all Muslims are suicide bombers, all Catholics are secretly pedarasts, all Protestants are Bible-thumpin' Jesus freaks, and all lawyers are lying, thieving PI shysters or divorce attorneys who prey on their vulnerable clients.

Now that we're all done painting with broad strokes, can we please get back to what's important? Namely, salary comparisons and a discussion of how badly ATMS is going to treat their new batch of associates?

http://bit.ly/aOJpWZ

Anonymous said...

@2:56 Say something about the Irish again and I'll hit you over the head with my whiskey bottle. When it's empty.

Anonymous said...

@3:31,

If you only have one bottle of whiskey at hand, you ain't Irish, my friend.

2:56

Anonymous said...

@2:56 Who cares about ATMS and who care about salary comparisons? Other than you that is. Give it a rest.

Anonymous said...

WTF? Lawyers denigrating each others' religions? COME ON!!! It's embarassing. The only thing I know for sure about religion is that someone is WRONG, and I am not presumptuous enough to know who.

Let's gt back to the important shit, like money.

Anonymous said...

@2:45: Eglet's not Mormon - He's GOD.

Anonymous said...

Irish are the only group I know taht embraces their own stereotype. Perhaps it is because they are the only ones that see that it really does not mater if lots of Irish are drunks.

Now all you funny underwear people out there that think you are going to be gods one day...are you going to give free will to the people so there will be guinness and Starbucks, or are you gonna make your worlds exclusively moron -- er -- mormon?

Anonymous said...

@ 2:09, Oregon Trail pioneers had wagons, not handcarts! And they died of dysentery. Don't you know your history?

Joking aside, the professional jealousy of Mormons displayed in these comments is sickening, and lacks creativity.

In fact, this blog has yet to reach the witticism of Greedy Associates (R.I.P.). Not.even.close.

Anonymous said...

moron = mormon. I see what you did there, classic! You certainly are clever.

Anonymous said...

"Eglet is not mormon - he's God."

4:00, you are wrong. He is the anti-christ.

And by the way. This one has me scratchin my ballsack wondering WTF:

"Mainor Eglet has reeled in a couple of major players to fill that hole left by Cottle: Attorney Artemus Ham (of the Hall) . . ."

R U F'ing SERIOUS? Little Artie Ham a "major player???" Nice guy, but a SHITTY lawyer who only got chicks because he shares the same name with the guy from the tv show Wild Wild West.

Anonymous said...

Lighten up 4:55, nobody takes this shit seriously. And 2:09 is a mormon herself. She's just pissed at mormon guys because she has to share her husband with 6 other wives and only gets to blow her husband Jebediah every 7th day.

Anonymous said...

5:28, see that's more like it. If you're going to insult a whole religion, at least make it funny. 'cuz we know Mormon guys love blowjobs. Just ask your sister.

Anonymous said...

Which 2nd place finisher out of the 300 candidates running for judge in the election is going to get appointed and take Wall's place?

Wall is a good judge and has great judicial temperament. When Krustycrotch Kuzempka beats Bill Kepthard, my money is that he will appoint the exact opposite of Wall, that being that moron backsliding mormon Kepthard. Then he'll strangle a defendant and go to jail, where that moron mormon Jim Gubler will take his place. Anyone want to place odds?

Anonymous said...

@146:

If Jesus is down for drinking so am I. Are you better than Jesus?

No, but Robert Eglet is.

Anonymous said...

I am no fan of the "religion", but does every thread here need to turn into a mormon-bashing festival?

What does this have to do with Judge Wall?

Start your own thread about how dumb mormonism is - knock yourself out: you have plenty of material - and stop hijacking other threads.

Anonymous said...

@4:00, I need to be very careful how I word this. Eglet is not God. But, IF Eglet was God, then Eglet would most certainly be Mormon.

Anonymous said...

2:48 - nice grammar mistake, idiot. DUCY? It is no surprise that you fall short in the intelligence department. Now I'll go get that blowjob from your sisters.

Anonymous said...

Many brave pionees moving west used hand carts. The mormons were the only people to have square wheels on theirs, though.

Anonymous said...

MOr perhaps he need s a trial attorney who can actually try a case without help;maybe Eglet hired a good judge so he can get him off the bench; Of course with Judge miley and Judge walsh the court system will still be protected by their vast litigation experience and knowledge of evidence. Judge Wall who has been a superb judge has a studious and thoughtful demaeanor juat what you see at the Eglet firm quiet happy happy people!!
Those optimistic souls who give it a year must be looking through very happy glasses.... give it a month
and as you recall many who would buy their way to power wind up like John Gotti.. doing time. Unless of course you live in Chicago or???Las Vegas

Anonymous said...

Shakespeare said" Lets kill all the Lawyers"; Maybe the new Quote should be"Lets buy all the judges".

Anonymous said...

859: Shakespeare didn't say that. One of the villains in Henry VI said that. It is a work of fiction - there is a distinction.

Anonymous said...

8:59 - Extremely ignorant about your Shakespeare - probably a product of Nevada's public education.

Those who use this phrase pejoratively against lawyers are as miserably misguided about their Shakespeare as they are about the judicial system which they disdain so freely.

Even a cursory reading of the context in which the lawyer killing statement is made in King Henry VI, Part II, (Act IV), Scene 2, reveals that Shakespeare was paying great and deserved homage to our venerable profession as the front line defenders of democracy.

The accolade is spoken by Dick the Butcher, a follower of anarchist Jack Cade, whom Shakespeare depicts as "the head of an army of rabble and a demagogue pandering to the ignorant," who sought to overthrow the government. Shakespeare's acknowledgment that the first thing any potential tyrant must do to eliminate freedom is to "kill all the lawyers" is, indeed, a classic and well-deserved compliment to our distinguished profession.

Anonymous said...

From 8:59 The words Shakespeare said "lets kill all the lawyers was not meant to be parsed so literally. Your comments are correct in that Cade and Dick in this play, first published in 1596 or 1597 set during the War of the Roses were conspiring to do away with all law and set Cade up as King.Cade planned to do s by promising the "common man" all the riches of the sovereign and sought to establish a system similiar to the socialist soviet union of Stalin the "butcher" Of course the use of the word butcher with Dick had two meanings Dick was a butcher of meat and of men.
I agree with you that we as lawyers should always be deeply concerned about the honesty and fairness of our judicial and legal system and the threats that power and the abuse of power can have on the same at any time.


BEVIS
He shall have the skin of our
CADE
Be brave, then; for your captain is brave, and vows
reformation. There shall be in England seven
halfpenny loaves sold for a penny: the three-hooped
pot; shall have ten hoops and I will make it felony
to drink small beer: all the realm shall be in
common; and in Cheapside shall my palfrey go to
grass: and when I am king, as king I will be,--

ALL
God save your majesty!

CADE
I thank you, good people: there shall be no money;
all shall eat and drink on my score; and I will
apparel them all in one livery, that they may agree
like brothers and worship me their lord.

DICK
The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers.

CADE
Nay, that I mean to do. Is not this a lamentable
thing, that of the skin of an innocent lamb should
be made parchment? that parchment, being scribbled
o'er, should undo a man? Some say the bee stings:
but I say, 'tis the bee's wax; for I did but seal
once to a thing, and I was never mine own man
since. How now! who's there?





CADE
Here's a villain!

SMITH
Has a book in his pocket with red letters in't.

CADE
Nay, then, he is a conjurer.

DICK
Nay, he can make obligations, and write court-hand.

CADE
I am sorry for't: the man is a proper man, of mine
honour; unless I find him guilty, he shall not die.
Come hither, sirrah, I must examine thee: what is thy name?

Clerk
Emmanuel.

DICK
They use to write it on the top of letters: 'twill
go hard with you.

CADE
Let me alone. Dost thou use to write thy name? or
hast thou a mark to thyself, like an

CADE
They fell before thee like sheep and oxen, and thou
behavedst thyself as if thou hadst been in thine own
slaughter-house: therefore thus will I reward thee,
the Lent shall be as long again as it is; and thou
shalt have a licence to kill for a hundred lacking
one.

DICK
I desire no more.

CADE
And, to speak truth, thou deservest no less. This
monument of the victory will I bear;

Putting on SIR HUMPHREY'S brigandine

and the bodies shall be dragged at my horse' heels
till I do come to London, where we will have the
mayor's sword borne before us.

DICK
If we mean to thrive and do good, break open the
gaols and let out the prisoners.

CADE
Fear not that, I warrant thee. Come, let's march
towards London.




DICK
I have a suit unto your lordship.

CADE
Be it a lordship, thou shalt have it for that word.

DICK
Only that the laws of England may come out of your mouth.

HOLLAND
[Aside] Mass, 'twill be sore law, then; for he was
thrust in the mouth with a spear, and 'tis not whole
yet.

SMITH
[Aside] Nay, John, it will be stinking law for his
breath stinks with eating toasted cheese.

CADE
I have thought upon it, it shall be so. Away, burn
all the records of the realm: my mouth shall be
the parliament of England.

HOLLAND
[Aside] Then we are like to have biting statutes

Anonymous said...

From 8:59 The words Shakespeare said "lets kill all the lawyers was not meant to be parsed so literally. Your comments are correct in that Cade and Dick in this play, first published in 1596 or 1597 set during the War of the Roses were conspiring to do away with all law and set Cade up as King.Cade planned to do s by promising the "common man" all the riches of the sovereign and sought to establish a system similiar to the socialist soviet union of Stalin the "butcher" Of course the use of the word butcher with Dick had two meanings Dick was a butcher of meat and of men.
I agree with you that we as lawyers should always be deeply concerned about the honesty and fairness of our judicial and legal system and the threats that power and the abuse of power can have on the same at any time.


BEVIS
He shall have the skin of our
CADE
Be brave, then; for your captain is brave, and vows
reformation. There shall be in England seven
halfpenny loaves sold for a penny: the three-hooped
pot; shall have ten hoops and I will make it felony
to drink small beer: all the realm shall be in
common; and in Cheapside shall my palfrey go to
grass: and when I am king, as king I will be,--

ALL
God save your majesty!

CADE
I thank you, good people: there shall be no money;
all shall eat and drink on my score; and I will
apparel them all in one livery, that they may agree
like brothers and worship me their lord.

DICK
The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers.

CADE
Nay, that I mean to do. Is not this a lamentable
thing, that of the skin of an innocent lamb should
be made parchment? that parchment, being scribbled
o'er, should undo a man? Some say the bee stings:
but I say, 'tis the bee's wax; for I did but seal
once to a thing, and I was never mine own man
since. How now! who's there?





CADE
Here's a villain!

SMITH
Has a book in his pocket with red letters in't.

CADE
Nay, then, he is a conjurer.

DICK
Nay, he can make obligations, and write court-hand.

CADE
I am sorry for't: the man is a proper man, of mine
honour; unless I find him guilty, he shall not die.
Come hither, sirrah, I must examine thee: what is thy name?

Clerk
Emmanuel.

DICK
They use to write it on the top of letters: 'twill
go hard with you.

CADE
Let me alone. Dost thou use to write thy name? or
hast thou a mark to thyself, like an

CADE
They fell before thee like sheep and oxen, and thou
behavedst thyself as if thou hadst been in thine own
slaughter-house: therefore thus will I reward thee,
the Lent shall be as long again as it is; and thou
shalt have a licence to kill for a hundred lacking
one.

DICK
I desire no more.

CADE
And, to speak truth, thou deservest no less. This
monument of the victory will I bear;

Putting on SIR HUMPHREY'S brigandine

and the bodies shall be dragged at my horse' heels
till I do come to London, where we will have the
mayor's sword borne before us.

DICK
If we mean to thrive and do good, break open the
gaols and let out the prisoners.

CADE
Fear not that, I warrant thee. Come, let's march
towards London.




DICK
I have a suit unto your lordship.

CADE
Be it a lordship, thou shalt have it for that word.

DICK
Only that the laws of England may come out of your mouth.

HOLLAND
[Aside] Mass, 'twill be sore law, then; for he was
thrust in the mouth with a spear, and 'tis not whole
yet.

SMITH
[Aside] Nay, John, it will be stinking law for his
breath stinks with eating toasted cheese.

CADE
I have thought upon it, it shall be so. Away, burn
all the records of the realm: my mouth shall be
the parliament of England.

HOLLAND
[Aside] Then we are like to have biting statutes

Anonymous said...

From 8:59 The words Shakespeare said "lets kill all the lawyers was not meant to be parsed so literally. Your comments are correct in that Cade and Dick in this play, first published in 1596 or 1597 set during the War of the Roses were conspiring to do away with all law and set Cade up as King.Cade planned to do s by promising the "common man" all the riches of the sovereign and sought to establish a system similiar to the socialist soviet union of Stalin the "butcher" Of course the use of the word butcher with Dick had two meanings Dick was a butcher of meat and of men.
I agree with you that we as lawyers should always be deeply concerned about the honesty and fairness of our judicial and legal system and the threats that power and the abuse of power can have on the same at any time.


BEVIS
He shall have the skin of our
CADE
Be brave, then; for your captain is brave, and vows
reformation. There shall be in England seven
halfpenny loaves sold for a penny: the three-hooped
pot; shall have ten hoops and I will make it felony
to drink small beer: all the realm shall be in
common; and in Cheapside shall my palfrey go to
grass: and when I am king, as king I will be,--

ALL
God save your majesty!

CADE
I thank you, good people: there shall be no money;
all shall eat and drink on my score; and I will
apparel them all in one livery, that they may agree
like brothers and worship me their lord.

DICK
The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers.

CADE
Nay, that I mean to do. Is not this a lamentable
thing, that of the skin of an innocent lamb should
be made parchment? that parchment, being scribbled
o'er, should undo a man? Some say the bee stings:
but I say, 'tis the bee's wax; for I did but seal
once to a thing, and I was never mine own man
since. How now! who's there?





CADE
Here's a villain!

SMITH
Has a book in his pocket with red letters in't.

CADE
Nay, then, he is a conjurer.

DICK
Nay, he can make obligations, and write court-hand.

CADE
I am sorry for't: the man is a proper man, of mine
honour; unless I find him guilty, he shall not die.
Come hither, sirrah, I must examine thee: what is thy name?

Clerk
Emmanuel.

DICK
They use to write it on the top of letters: 'twill
go hard with you.

CADE
Let me alone. Dost thou use to write thy name? or
hast thou a mark to thyself, like an

CADE
They fell before thee like sheep and oxen, and thou
behavedst thyself as if thou hadst been in thine own
slaughter-house: therefore thus will I reward thee,
the Lent shall be as long again as it is; and thou
shalt have a licence to kill for a hundred lacking
one.

DICK
I desire no more.

CADE
And, to speak truth, thou deservest no less. This
monument of the victory will I bear;

Putting on SIR HUMPHREY'S brigandine

and the bodies shall be dragged at my horse' heels
till I do come to London, where we will have the
mayor's sword borne before us.

DICK
If we mean to thrive and do good, break open the
gaols and let out the prisoners.

CADE
Fear not that, I warrant thee. Come, let's march
towards London.




DICK
I have a suit unto your lordship.

CADE
Be it a lordship, thou shalt have it for that word.

DICK
Only that the laws of England may come out of your mouth.

HOLLAND
[Aside] Mass, 'twill be sore law, then; for he was
thrust in the mouth with a spear, and 'tis not whole
yet.

SMITH
[Aside] Nay, John, it will be stinking law for his
breath stinks with eating toasted cheese.

CADE
I have thought upon it, it shall be so. Away, burn
all the records of the realm: my mouth shall be
the parliament of England.

HOLLAND
[Aside] Then we are like to have biting statutes

Anonymous said...

From 8:59 The words Shakespeare said "lets kill all the lawyers was not meant to be parsed so literally. Your comments are correct in that Cade and Dick in this play, first published in 1596 or 1597 set during the War of the Roses were conspiring to do away with all law and set Cade up as King.Cade planned to do s by promising the "common man" all the riches of the sovereign and sought to establish a system similiar to the socialist soviet union of Stalin the "butcher" Of course the use of the word butcher with Dick had two meanings Dick was a butcher of meat and of men.
I agree with you that we as lawyers should always be deeply concerned about the honesty and fairness of our judicial and legal system and the threats that power and the abuse of power can have on the same at any time.


BEVIS
He shall have the skin of our
CADE
Be brave, then; for your captain is brave, and vows
reformation. There shall be in England seven
halfpenny loaves sold for a penny: the three-hooped
pot; shall have ten hoops and I will make it felony
to drink small beer: all the realm shall be in
common; and in Cheapside shall my palfrey go to
grass: and when I am king, as king I will be,--

ALL
God save your majesty!

CADE
I thank you, good people: there shall be no money;
all shall eat and drink on my score; and I will
apparel them all in one livery, that they may agree
like brothers and worship me their lord.

DICK
The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers.

CADE
Nay, that I mean to do. Is not this a lamentable
thing, that of the skin of an innocent lamb should
be made parchment? that parchment, being scribbled
o'er, should undo a man? Some say the bee stings:
but I say, 'tis the bee's wax; for I did but seal
once to a thing, and I was never mine own man
since. How now! who's there?





CADE
Here's a villain!

SMITH
Has a book in his pocket with red letters in't.

CADE
Nay, then, he is a conjurer.

DICK
Nay, he can make obligations, and write court-hand.

CADE
I am sorry for't: the man is a proper man, of mine
honour; unless I find him guilty, he shall not die.
Come hither, sirrah, I must examine thee: what is thy name?

Clerk
Emmanuel.

DICK
They use to write it on the top of letters: 'twill
go hard with you.

CADE
Let me alone. Dost thou use to write thy name? or
hast thou a mark to thyself, like an

CADE
They fell before thee like sheep and oxen, and thou
behavedst thyself as if thou hadst been in thine own
slaughter-house: therefore thus will I reward thee,
the Lent shall be as long again as it is; and thou
shalt have a licence to kill for a hundred lacking
one.

DICK
I desire no more.

CADE
And, to speak truth, thou deservest no less. This
monument of the victory will I bear;

Putting on SIR HUMPHREY'S brigandine

and the bodies shall be dragged at my horse' heels
till I do come to London, where we will have the
mayor's sword borne before us.

DICK
If we mean to thrive and do good, break open the
gaols and let out the prisoners.

CADE
Fear not that, I warrant thee. Come, let's march
towards London.




DICK
I have a suit unto your lordship.

CADE
Be it a lordship, thou shalt have it for that word.

DICK
Only that the laws of England may come out of your mouth.

HOLLAND
[Aside] Mass, 'twill be sore law, then; for he was
thrust in the mouth with a spear, and 'tis not whole
yet.

SMITH
[Aside] Nay, John, it will be stinking law for his
breath stinks with eating toasted cheese.

CADE
I have thought upon it, it shall be so. Away, burn
all the records of the realm: my mouth shall be
the parliament of England.

HOLLAND
[Aside] Then we are like to have biting statutes

Anonymous said...

From 8:59 The words Shakespeare said "lets kill all the lawyers was not meant to be parsed so literally. Your comments are correct in that Cade and Dick in this play, first published in 1596 or 1597 set during the War of the Roses were conspiring to do away with all law and set Cade up as King.Cade planned to do s by promising the "common man" all the riches of the sovereign and sought to establish a system similiar to the socialist soviet union of Stalin the "butcher" Of course the use of the word butcher with Dick had two meanings Dick was a butcher of meat and of men.
I agree with you that we as lawyers should always be deeply concerned about the honesty and fairness of our judicial and legal system and the threats that power and the abuse of power can have on the same at any time.


BEVIS
He shall have the skin of our
CADE
Be brave, then; for your captain is brave, and vows
reformation. There shall be in England seven
halfpenny loaves sold for a penny: the three-hooped
pot; shall have ten hoops and I will make it felony
to drink small beer: all the realm shall be in
common; and in Cheapside shall my palfrey go to
grass: and when I am king, as king I will be,--

ALL
God save your majesty!

CADE
I thank you, good people: there shall be no money;
all shall eat and drink on my score; and I will
apparel them all in one livery, that they may agree
like brothers and worship me their lord.

DICK
The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers.

CADE
Nay, that I mean to do. Is not this a lamentable
thing, that of the skin of an innocent lamb should
be made parchment? that parchment, being scribbled
o'er, should undo a man? Some say the bee stings:
but I say, 'tis the bee's wax; for I did but seal
once to a thing, and I was never mine own man
since. How now! who's there?





CADE
Here's a villain!

SMITH
Has a book in his pocket with red letters in't.

CADE
Nay, then, he is a conjurer.

DICK
Nay, he can make obligations, and write court-hand.

CADE
I am sorry for't: the man is a proper man, of mine
honour; unless I find him guilty, he shall not die.
Come hither, sirrah, I must examine thee: what is thy name?

Clerk
Emmanuel.

DICK
They use to write it on the top of letters: 'twill
go hard with you.

CADE
Let me alone. Dost thou use to write thy name? or
hast thou a mark to thyself, like an

CADE
They fell before thee like sheep and oxen, and thou
behavedst thyself as if thou hadst been in thine own
slaughter-house: therefore thus will I reward thee,
the Lent shall be as long again as it is; and thou
shalt have a licence to kill for a hundred lacking
one.

DICK
I desire no more.

CADE
And, to speak truth, thou deservest no less. This
monument of the victory will I bear;

Putting on SIR HUMPHREY'S brigandine

and the bodies shall be dragged at my horse' heels
till I do come to London, where we will have the
mayor's sword borne before us.

DICK
If we mean to thrive and do good, break open the
gaols and let out the prisoners.

CADE
Fear not that, I warrant thee. Come, let's march
towards London.




DICK
I have a suit unto your lordship.

CADE
Be it a lordship, thou shalt have it for that word.

DICK
Only that the laws of England may come out of your mouth.

HOLLAND
[Aside] Mass, 'twill be sore law, then; for he was
thrust in the mouth with a spear, and 'tis not whole
yet.

SMITH
[Aside] Nay, John, it will be stinking law for his
breath stinks with eating toasted cheese.

CADE
I have thought upon it, it shall be so. Away, burn
all the records of the realm: my mouth shall be
the parliament of England.

HOLLAND
[Aside] Then we are like to have biting statutes

Anonymous said...

Who is this Shakespeare guy? Is he a mormon? Does he work for Eglet? Did my sister blow him?

Anonymous said...

Shakespeare is a code word for the undercover(really undercover)FBI agent that was planted along with a Mossad agent in Eglets paralegal unit you know as Teva goes so goes the state of Israel maybe you should keep this secret between you and your sister shhh

Anonymous said...

So, I am taking notes, mormons don't like to be teased, just blown?

Anonymous said...

Even mormons know a good blow involves a fair amount of teasing. You can't just suck like a Hoover. And by that I mean you can't but your sister can!

Anonymous said...

The Ticket Wacker should be appointed

Anonymous said...

Holy hell. 92 comments, ranging from blow jobs to Mormon pioneers, to 6 posts in a row grossly distorting Shakespeare in an attempt to make a patently obvious lawyer joke into something praising the legal profession. (You nincompoops, the speaker was describing the ideal land---which didn't include lawyers---not talking about how he'd need to kill lawyers in order to become king. Gawd, read or watch the effing play.) Oh, and a few discussing the blog post.

Well done, JWL. Well done indeed.

Anonymous said...

sorry but you might read what was attached and then read the entire play before you give your interpretation it sounds like you saw the play then read the entire Henry VI Parts 1 and 2.It helps to read Cade wanted the butcher to kill all the lawyers and destroy all the courts so only one man could give and interpret the law Cade he sure as hell wasn't advocating a free land.. if you haven't at least read the play act and scene then you display arrogance if you have and you don't understand that point you better try grammar school reading
It wasn't a major point of the play but I hope you don't disagree that attacks on the legal system or the corruption of the system or the judiciary is dangerous to a free society.

you might find that message in the play if you think but then your comments would indicate not oh well

Anonymous said...

Sweet mother of Cardozo, 6:59, if your legal reasoning is as lousy as your reading comprehension, it's no wonder Wall is joining Eglet. He can spank you and your clients all day long for fun, and then pick up your client's money as an added perk.

First, your arguments regarding attacks on the legal system are completely irrelevant. Did I suggest that lawyers are not on the front lines protecting freedoms from government incursion? No, I didn't. I merely pointed out that trying to use the line from Henry VI to praise lawyers was nincompoopery.

Second, you misstate my words. I said that Cade was describing his ideal world, not a free one. His ideal word included everyone dressing the same and agreeing. To that, Dick cracked "let's kill all the lawyers." Dick had been making wisecracks from the moment Dick and Cade entered the scene; this was no different. Cade continued the lawyer joke by saying that it wasn't the bee's sting that hurt, it was the bee's wax (the seal on contracts, pleas, etc.).

Oh, and for the love of God, use a period! Yes, I know that how someone writes on a blog is not indicative of their ability to write formally, but an inability to write clearly speaks to an unclear mind, and an unclear mind is indicative of poor legal reasoning.

Anonymous said...

8:32 Oh mother of Oliver Wendell Holmes! Your overuse of the word nimcompoopery perhaps reflects your social and mental development; Perhaps a librarian at heart.
It occurs to me that your reveal a literal need to exercise your ability to be right without regard to the essence of the discussion. One might say that your mind has the flexibility of a concrete tower. You started off with a verbal assertion of superiority ( we nincompoops all) that revealed someone who is less interested in the discussion of ideas then showing off what he believes to be his superior knowledge.

Look, you missed the point.It is not government intrusion we are talking about but corruption of our lawyers and legal institutions by individuals within or without the system.
Dick the butcher wasn't joking when he asked for a boon to kill as many as he could so as to assist Cade in the destruction of these institutions.

Perhaps if you drop the mirror of your own thoughts from in front of you we can have a useful discussion in the future.

Anonymous said...

@10:35. I think I love you.

Anonymous said...

@6:53 I think I love you

Anonymous said...

to 6:53AM and 8:39 am; Its never too early for love. I love you back!

Anonymous said...

I just want to get to 100 comments.

Anonymous said...

And so we did.